At most cenacles, the meditations of Don Stefano are read and discussed, though this is not an essential part of the movement. Is this compatible with the practice of our true Catholic faith? Gobbi himself says, "No locution, not even such as are gathered together in this book, could take the place of, or be put on a par with, an official public statement of the faith of the Church, from which the complete physiognomy of Mary and her mission will become apparent. She was one of five daughters who lived in the small city of Corato, Italy. . It is none other than the very holiness of Eden itselfthe holiness that Mary, too, enjoyed in a far more perfect way than even Adam and Eveand it is now available for the asking. The alleged Marian apparitions in Zaro di Ischia (an island near Naples in Italy) have been ongoing since 1994. It is in this sense that the Catholic Church declares it's belief in predestination, and will use the more accurate word, "predetermination," to describe the old Calvinist idea. In this Second Pentecost, the Spirit of Christ will penetrate ever soul so forcefully and thoroughly that in five-to fifteen minutes time, every person will see his or her life of sin. The Nicene Creed: He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead.. M., While such a foreignNihil obstat does not, on its own, constitutein situ diocesan approval of the apparitions, it is certainly not insignificant. Is it canonically correct for a Lector to change the scriptures to a more "politically correct" form? Or is it a New-Age type of thing? He gathered them into a book, To the Priests: Our Lady's Beloved Sons, and presented it to the Marian Movement. Stefano Gobbi) and considers the coming of an Era of Peace a heretical view. There are three translations (or versions) on the Holy Scriptures approved for use in public worship in the dioceses of the United States: The New American Bible; the Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition; and The Jerusalem Bible. Father Jos Mara Fernandez Rojas has remained beside Luz de Mara as her confessor from the beginning of her locutions and visions, and two priests work with her permanently. Join us this week as we learn all about the Catholic faith with the wit and wisdom of Mo. During the cenacles, and on other occasions, this man would see in the air in front of him the numbers of messages from the so-called Blue Book, the collection of the revelations Our Lady gave to Fr. Gobbi founded the Marian Movement of Priests (MMP). I didnt know. Some of these have been dismissed by the Church (Montichiari, Ghiaie di Bonate, Biding, Kerizinen), but have nonetheless attracted growing interest on the part of serious researchers concerned with establishing historical truth and rehabilitating mystics who may have been unjustly condemned. But if, after having done all the appropriate homework, one is still in disagreement with the Church's teaching, one must follow one's conscience. Does the church or bishops approve of his writings? Without judging individuals, we must measure all teaching against the doctrine of the Church, our faithful Mother. I am an instrument Jesus uses to make us taste his Word for our times. Only thus will the Our Father prayer truly be fulfilled; and this prayer, the greatest prayer ever prayed, is a sure prophecy uttered by the lips of the Son of God. Taken from the best-selling book, The Warning: Testimonies and Prophecies of the Illumination of Conscience. Do we have free will on our choices, or is everything we do preordained by God? Part of dealing with this kind of situation is to recognize that we can't change those around us; we can only change ourselves. These phenomena, when the sun appears to rotate, flash or be transformed into a Eucharistic Host, clearly cannot be faked by human means, and being recorded (albeit imperfectly) on camera, are also evidently not merely the fruit of collective hallucination. About Fr. 15:5153). | Irondale, AL 35210 |. . Fr. Eventually I was ordained as an Anglican priest and . (+the Great Tribulation & How I Received the GIFT OF TONGUES - Fr. The Virgin Mary identified herself as the Queen of the Rosary and of Peace, and the messages often emphasized praying the Rosary dailyin particular the family rosary, turning off the television, going to Confession, Eucharistic Adoration, the confirmation that the true Church is the Roman Catholic Apostolic Church, and that a torrent of chastisements are soon approaching. While I am not worthy of this, I accept with great fear and responsibility this great gift, handing myself over totally to His Divine Will. While Luisas revelations are fully orthodox (the Church has repeatedly affirmed this and even has in many ways approved them already), they nevertheless give what is, frankly, the most amazing message one can possibly imagine. The attitude of the clergy is predictably mixed: some priests are skeptical, while others participate fully in the cenacle. How did Fr. A conscience that knows what the Church teaches can never be used as an excuse to do what the Church teaches is objectively evil. In the introduction of the de facto handbook of the MMP: To the Priests, Our Ladys Beloved Sons, it says of the movement: The messages that Our Lady gave to Fr. I don't believe that you have any reason to be concerned about whether you are on the right path, as long as that path leads to the Lord. Conscience is a "judgment" about the moral lawfulness/unlawfulness of a particular action. Gobbi: "The return (Second Coming) of Jesus in glory [will take place] before His final coming for the Last Judgment" (2). The existence of a considerable number of ongoing mystical phenomena accompanying Luz de Maria (stigmatization, crucifixes bleeding in her presence, religious images exuding oil). Quite naturally, this work makes use of certain instruments; and in a particular way, Don Stefano Gobbi has been chosen. NEW YORK Father Frank Pavone, the national director of Priests for Life, faces an investigation from his bishop for placing an unborn child's corpse on the altar in Priests for Life's chapel as. It was on this date that she began recording her mystical dialogues. Their message is so mind-boggling that doubt in them would be quite tempting, but for the fact that simply no reasonable grounds remain for such doubt. . But, without launching into a treatise on conscience, let me just say when you speak of "a reasonable position based on consideration of all relevant sources of knowledge," you're forgetting the fact one of those source is guided by the Holy Spirit; and the Spirit does not contradict himself, guiding the Church in one direction and individuals in another. Apparitions subsequently occurred almost daily until January 1, 1996, two months after the first message from Jesus in a hospital where Eduardo was working as a nurse. for a Priest to change the word "men" to "people" in the Nicene Creed at mass? Gobbi clearly says that the Consecration of Russia has not occurred. Fr Gobbi is of course not the only person to have ever received 'interior locutions'; they have been received by many of the Church's great mystics. The following is from Valeria Copponis own words, as they are stated on her website and translated from the Italian:http://gesu-maria.net/. It was designed to counter doubts about the validity of the messages, but, in order to do so, it was necessary to include those statements that gave rise to the concerns in the first place. Your experiences and what you feel are not at all unique. Prophecies of the Virgin Mary from Fr. Given that the apparitions are no longer formally approved (but not formally condemned), it may legitimately be asked why we have nonetheless chosen to feature material received by Edson Glauber on this website. Thirdly, the messages have frequently been accompanied by visible phenomena, photographic evidence found inIn Cammino con Maria, which cannot be the fruit of subjective imagination, notably the presence of the stigmata on Giselles body and and the appearance of crosses or religious texts inbloodon Gisellas arms. Gobbi: At the coming of Jesus in glory, there will be the first resurrection of only those particular believers who had died as martyrs. Their unique role will be to partake in the sovereign earthly reign of Christ for this thousand-year period (5). In 2010, her mystical communications came to a conclusion, two years before her death from cancer in St. Johns Hospice, Szczecin, on January 5, 2012. See the pictures taken from her apparition website https://www.lareginadelrosario.com/, which say Siate testimoni (be witnesses), Abbiate fede (have faith), Maria santissima (Mary most holy), Popolo mio (My people), and Amore (Love). who have obvious problems with men, and the established authority, seems like, at the very least, enabling a behavior which needs psychological treatment, at most, a departure from the faith. YEARS: 1972 - Present. The CDF, under Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Mller at the time, did not mention a second seer, Glaubers mother, Maria do Carmo, who likewise met with approval by the now-deceased Bishop Gritti. Thanks Fr. Sometimes these are in the presence of witnesses for which we have video evidence (see here). In 2009, the cardinal not only gave the Imprimatur to The Spiritual Diary, but recognized Elizabeths mystical locutions and writings as authentic, a gift to the Church. In addition, he gave his episcopal approval of the Flame of Love movement, which has formally operated within the Church for over twenty years. The messages originally came as internal locutions, followed by visions of Mary, who came to describe Luz de Maras mission. Our Lady of Fatima has told us what will bring peace or war, (1913-1985)Wife, Mother, Mystic, and Founder of The Flame of Love Movement, http://www.heartofmaryarabic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/The-Blue-Book.pdf, CRITICAL WWIII ALERT: Pray the Five First Saturday Devotion and for the Popes Consecration, Pedro Do Not be Discouraged by Difficulties, The Warning: Testimonies and Prophecies of the Illumination of Conscience, https://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/MMP.htm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkZ3LUxx-8E. Marian Movement of Priests. Believing himself to be the recipient of interior locutions from the Mother of God, Don Stefano obeyed her command to gather around himself a cohort of loyal priests faithful to the Pope and the Church, and consecrated to her Immaculate Heart, forming the nucleus of what today is called the Marian Movement of Priests, with over five thousand registered members world-wide. Salvation and sanctification: the two ultimate desires God has for His dear children. Dated October 7, 1998 and addressed to All members of the Marian Movement of Priests, the letter from Rev. But my initial reaction is to disagree with your statement, "She/he must educate her/his conscience in that regard, and if he/she finds that such an act is not sinful, then he/she must determine her/his conscience in the light of the Magisterium of the Church, who teaches otherwise." Church or bishops approve of his writings Gobbi has been chosen presence of for. 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