Everyone thought that to actually suspend you for smoking the matron had to catch you either holding a cigarette or with the smoke coming out of your mouth. General? And I said, Because I liked your clever ads.. Here's one guarantee in 2021: author Fran Lebowitz won't read this. The housing problem would be solved completely. You dont have to pay me. She said, It is out of the question that this is going to come in without needing editing. And when I gave it in, she called to apologize. FRANCESCO CLEMENTE: After a certain age, in the early hours of the morning, the pressure drops, which is the reason why. I wanted to be a beatnik. But, of course, Ive always been old at heart. She needed something bigger to disapprove of, and so her column became I Cover the Waterfront, and her beat became the entire universe of questionable taste. When asked about the long delay in its delivery to her publisher, she explained that she only works on it on the side. I think I will learn to type. Thanks for offering this from your Archive. CLEMENTE: You were not good at math in school? Im afraid Im sitting beyond my means.. If theyd known anyone in London, they would have sent me there. Well, huge myths grew up around the matron at my school. But it's a pleasurable one. I was a chauffeur for Johnny and Edgar Winter. by . Fran Lebowitz is a New York humorist who worked as a columnist for Andy Warhol's Interview before publishing her first collection of comic essays, Metropolitan Life, in 1978. I get rid of the ones that I can bear to give up or never wanted to begin with. There was one 75-year-old woman who was a torch singer; she had varicose veins, and shed get up on this stool and sing Marlene Dietrich songs, also at ten in the morning. Id read five or six each time I went on. He wrote a lot of books. I thought theyd probably just give me another joint. But you could live in New York. All Rights Reserved. I was more of a drinker. I used to sneak out of bed to watch it. High Times: What was your best subject in school? So Scully put on something called Village Varieties, and he hired all these teenaged artists-to-be, and it opened at ten in the morning and closed at six. In those days you smoked whatever pot you had that day, so rather than share with others I smoked as much as I could humanly smoke. Its the thing that Im most criticized for. And I was really distraught. Stay home! Fran Lebowitz: I Cover the Waterfront. No one else remembers things from this whole period, but I wasnt high. Thats the problem. Because its everyones dream: Someday Im going to go to New York and go to Queens. Every place theres a hotel, theres one less apartment building. Okay? I remember she wore her hair in a French roll, and she wore what they called a hobble skirt. In conversation with Interview pal Francesco Clemente, Lebowitz here lays out her tongue-in-cheek platform for a mayoral run, declares the Donalds run done, and explains why New York is the greatest place in the world. LEBOWITZ: Well, you know, so few Americans vote that we may not even notice it. I got a lot of tips. Theres too much distance. This is America, what is the culture? After I moved to New York, I modeled for people like Steven Meisel. People ask me, Arent you interested in what theyre thinking? But I really dont like animals at all. Lebowitz: Because I was 19 years old. Why was your first apartment so horrible, apart from the roaches? I took popular tunes, like Michael Row the Boat Ashore, and wrote lyrics having to do with my family. By Kate Mossman Enough time has passed, Fran Lebowitz thinks, to admit she went to a birthday party on 9/11. I just dont want to hear someone else walking around. I remember it because they gave me the topic: What was the effect of AIDS on the culture? He packs them, and then every time you move, they have to be put in different ways. And it allowed people who would be fifth-rate artists to come to the front of the line. And I would always give it back. High Times: Have you gotten any marriage proposals? At twenty-one, she began a column, I Cover the Waterfront, for Andy WarholsInterviewmagazine, before moving toMademoiselle. Id just sit at a desk and talk. I wanted consciousness-restricting drugs; thats why I used to like liquor. My whole movie consciousness was based on movies no one else had ever seen. Book 7. I didnt know how to type, Marc knew how to type. Lebowitz: Sepia is my all-time favorite. Homesicknessthis kind of interrupted loveis a big element in your work. Its very important who the president of the United States is. LEBOWITZ: Money. My inspiration for wanting to be a beatnik was not Allen Ginsberg or Jack Kerouac but Maynard G. Krebs from the Dobie Gillis show. "And then we did it the Saturday . Of course, every year it gets harder to find them. I also cleaned peoples houses, specializing in Venetian blinds. Romantic love is mental illness. It was terribly disconcerting because I knew that they werent going to cure me. General in Boston. It was one room, but that makes it sound grander than it was. I Cover The Waterfront. The film, a mix of interviews and clips of Lebowitz, is . And I reviewed those. I would stand at the border and say, Youre coming here to live, really? In Andy Warhol's Interview: Volume 1: Best of the First Decade 1969-1979, edited by Sara J . Obviously, I was opposed to this, and I still am. So I didnt have a kitchen. Id like to be the admissions director of New York. High Times: Didnt you write some pornographic books as a struggling artist? CLEMENTE: Is there any aspect of New Jersey that you miss? Nowadays if I were to be homesick it would be for Vermont, which is strange. Thru Show Type: Comedy Box Office: 800-775-2000 www.auditoriumtheatre.org And you know what we have enough of? I do remember that the worst movie I ever saw was called Four Flies on Gray Velvet, with Mimsy Farmer, one of your great loves. And its not just New York; its the whole world. "It would have been . Holding a grudge is the modern equivalent of having standards. The effect of AIDS was like a war in a minute country. Wielding a sharp pen in one hand and cigarette in another, Fran Lebowitz wrote for Andy Warhol's Interview magazine beginning in 1968; published two classic collections of tart, humorous essays Metropolitan Life (1978) and Social Studies (1981) and has ever since remained a fixture of the Manhattan social scene as a sort of critic without portfolio. LEBOWITZ: I mean, because I had no money. High Times: What brands have you smoked since then? But, I mean, no one talked about money. Theres a huge gap in what people know, and theres no context for it anymore. I wrote it in a loose-leaf notebook in pencil. OK, come on. Monday June 7 2021. The New York Times, especially at that time, was gigantic. But then I found out it was fraud or something and I could go to jail, so I sent the money back and wrote to the people who sent it to me. Fran describes Ralph Lauren's copying, and eventual embodiment, of Brooks Brothers WASP style. After he described his husband's final day, terminally ill and surrounded by their four poodles, I said, "That's so special. The 70-year-old . It was like the myth where if a girl gets pregnant and takes the boy to court, if three other boys come into court and say that they had slept with her, they would all get off scot-free. The years have gone by, but she is still tall. He wasnt a comedian, but he was the funniest talk-show guest. I often think of the time before my brothers were bornand this might sound very childish, but I dont careas this paradise of my mother and me always being together. It was kind of adolescent-petulantsulking, rebellious. I think I first came across it in one of the Bronts. When I was really young I wanted to be a toll taker because I thought they kept the money. This will come as no surprise to anyone who is even vaguely familiar with her work, which, in the past four decades, has largely consisted of being Fran Lebowitz: a strong-willed, grumpy,. Lebowitz: Not Samuel Z. Arkoff or anyone, but the press agent there loved me. But I would always say, Well, its not that I dont want to write for these big magazines, but you cant edit it. And they would always say, What are you talking about? And then they would name thousands of geniuses who willingly submitted to being edited. And its also not a modern idea; dictators are an old-fashioned idea. I was simply sent away to support them. Used Planes comes out every single month. There was nothing televisiony or psychological about it. They had a very weird array of people who worked there. But this idea that people cannot kill each other? Fortunately they didnt, so its not around to haunt me. "One of the reasons people our age came to New York, if you were gay, was because you . Fran began her pro writing career at 20. It was minute. French symbolist? 15 Times Fran Lebowitz Was The Most Interesting Woman In The Room. Fran Lebowitz, who is featured "Pretend It's a City" on Netflix. )Feature about Roy M. Cohn with full page photo by ROBERT MAPPLETHORPEGallery and fashion adsFran Lebowitz ("I Cover the Waterfront" column)music reviews, party pics.Funny classifieds.COVER IS torn (upper I know this sounds insane, but I just hate it. And that is the only place I have those columns, because when I moved from my first horrible apartment, I had every Interview, ever. She has been a resident of Manhattan, New York since 1970. Metropolitan Life, published by E.P. Which is why I remember things. Comedian and podcast host Bill Maher pushed back against author Fran Lebowitz in his upcoming "Club Random" podcast when she suggested that schools have gone off the deep-end because of Republicans. What could they be thinking? Im only afraid when I write. Then I start thinking that maybe somewhere in the house is a column that I never turned in. These were oral book reports. And people are constantly telling me, whether they are friends who feel sorry for me, because I cant find a place to live, or real estate agents, You cant afford an apartment the size you need with this many books. And thats why Frans first book, Metropolitan Life, has become a smash hit. We think his version of the navy pinstripe would fit right in Fran's rotation. To me, it would be even a slower way to write. I don't care how she makes her money but she helps make the world a better place in to live in. Fran Lebowitz moved to New York City from her hometown of Morristown, NJ when she was 19. So theyre in alphabetical order, within each section. Lebowitz: Actually my main occupation in bed was book reports. Jan. 11, 2021 2:36 PM PT. I think Brigid Polk did that once. Lebowitz: I was a behavior problem as far as talking. Children played marbles on it. I wanted to see Robert Young. There were maybe 40 poems, the only poems I ever wrote. High Times: What was the first thing you wrote as a serious attempt to be a writer? Frans column was called The Best of the Worst; her job was reviewing the best of the current bad films, and she worked as hard as a Variety critic, taking in two or three screenings a day. I met some very interesting taxi drivers. She thought it might be broadening to be banned from fashion shows and book-launching parties as well, and came up with a new name for her new, improved column, I Cover the Waterfront ." That tends to upset people. The Great Gildersleeve. But to me, romance is the opposite of domestic life. And Orson Welles agrees Behind him comes Fran Lebowitz, flustered from whatever is going on in the street. The two close friends first came together for an HBO documentary Public Speaking in 2010, directed by Scorsese, which introduced Lebowitz to a new generation and helped established her continued relevance. Im such a slow writer I have no need for anything as fast as a word processor. After gaining recognition for her I Cover the Waterfront, Lebowitz moved onto Mademooiselle before publishing her first two books, Metropolitan Life and Social Studies. I wait until the editor says, Unless its in tomorrow morning at ten oclock we cant run it. Then I stay up all night and do it. The knowing audience also died and no longer exists in a real way. They told you what to write. CLEMENTE: Youre a New Yorker, but you were raised in New Jersey, no? Fran Lebowitz slams NYC mayor Eric Adams. I had such contempt for a certain kind of writing, which I would now call white writing. It was so dull and mannered. October 3, 2022 | 2:24pm. But at a certain point, you hit your limit, and thats it. My favorite thing to do is to call another writer who has a deadline, because they will stay on the phone with you. You sit or stand in the subway, and you look aroundI do, because I dont have a phone so Im not playing a gameand you see people. And thats the reason why a person of a certain age wakes up early morning with a slight sense of anxiety. That was one. So I evolved the theory that horses are hands. But now, as Ive grown up, all my friends have developed much more mature writing habits. Subscribe for free:Stitcher|Apple Podcasts|Google Play, 2023 The Paris Review. High Times: Why did you smoke an ounce of marijuana in one day? I think if there were no such thing as men, there would be no word processors. Fran was raised in Morristown, New Jersey. And just think how fantastic New York would be. We Pick Up With Our Adventurers As The Party Begins. Her essays and topical interviews on subjects ranging from the difficulty of finding an acceptable apartment to the art of freeloading at weekend houses have come to be regarded as classics of literary humor and social observation. FRAN LEBOWITZ: The blood pressure or the air pressure? There were just tons of these and I never waited tables. An interview with the late, great actor, comedian, and cannabis fan Richard Belzer (1944-2023). But Ive never missed a deadline. Then one day Polka Dotty was found dead. After that I switched back to Larks, and I smoked those for a really long time. Lebowitz discoursed without pause for two hours, chain-smoking all the while. But perhaps it makes senseI grew up in a place where I saw the sea every day and, near the end of my life, Im living in a place where the water has run out. I like Woody Allen. The two things I hate the most. - Booklet on 'New York's Underground' - Large . One of the other ones was a Manson-type film, a hippie death cult. At the age of. LEBOWITZ: No. It used to be a tradition in agricultural families that youd sacrifice the eldest child. There could be butchers and bookstores. Like a city. CLEMENTE: [laughs] Lets talk about your twenty thousand books. I knew about four or five people who wrote porn books at the time that I was a poet. Not just New York. 817K views 3 years ago #amanpourpbs Known for her sardonic wit, social commentator Fran Lebowitz is a New York legend. The whole time before I write I spend on the phone begging people for ideas and solace and sympathy. I have to move the lamp to the desk. CLEMENTE: Have you been following the presidential campaign? Once I got the contract for Metropolitan Life, I started writing longer things, because the editor said, You cant write these little, tiny things. I have the exact opposite problem of every writer Ive ever met: Every writer Ive ever met writes things that are too long, and they have to edit them down. In person, that voice pours out in great glittering riffs (on politics and personal space, on AIDS, the 80s, New York, and everything in between) that set Lebowitz atop our list of dream dinner-party guests and probably put her in the running for greatest talkers ever. The psychiatrist also had shoulder-length hair and Levis under his white coat, and I spent ten minutes arguing with him over whether Id taken acid or smoked pot. My parents did. Lebowitz: I was 19 at the time, so I thought it was entertaining. Im the worlds greatest daughter. This is not England. A pen goes exactly at your speed, whereas that machine jumps. It was a very terrifying experience because when I started to flip out having smoked this much pot I was in a room with people who had also smoked this much pot and no one would help me out. I got up every morning, brushed my teeth and went to the Village Vanguard and read poetry. The idea of writing something without publishing it is too horrifying to me. I didnt connect with the fact that her father was a lord and that he had it privately printed, and that my father was not a lordhe owned a furniture store and had no intention of having a book privately printed. FRAN LEBOWITZ. I was a big fan of Sky King. There are some great writers who are great talkers, but there are more great writers who are not great talkers. They dont know what anything is, so they have to make it up. I was quite happy to be out. But I did actually graduate from high school, because I took the New Jersey High School Equivalency Test. You can get this book in the Derby Library in Derby, Connecticut, where my grandmother lives.. By the time my youngest brother was born her life had collapsed on her, but she was a very elegant woman when I was young. A.I.P. I wrote a musical comedy for my grandparents 35th wedding anniversary. This is why you have so much idiotic behavior among male writers. Theyre acting as if the other people are Abraham Lincoln. I think there should be an oldies TV station like theres an oldies radio station, with Dobie Gillis and Life of Riley and all those great shows. Required fields are marked *. Then I switched to Vantage. High Times: Tell me about your writing habits. The only shows I remember when I was a little kid are Miss Francess Ding Dong School, which I watched because everyone made fun of me because my name was Frances. And then, that machine is waiting for you, just humming uh-huh, yes?. No ones supposed to be the president. Im simply not a fan of navet. In the early 1970s, Andy Warhol hired Lebowitz as a columnist for his magazine Interview, where she wrote a column, I Cover The Waterfront. LEBOWITZ: Yes, the night before. Lebowitz: I see no reason to get up before one oclock except to watch Family Feud. But . I have to take all the junk off the desk and wash the desk. To celebrate, we're republishing Glenn O'Brien's interview with the living legend from the August, 1978 print edition of High Times. I always was.FRAN LEBOWITZ. In clips of them talking on stage, Lebowitz looks uncharacteristically awestruck. Your friends who dont write will not stay on the phone with you, because they have other real things they want to do. That never used to happen. Fran Lebowitz, ca. And then I would go to the Factory and turn it in. Its placing too great a burden on the average intelligence. I like that Oscar Wilde. But I know a lot about them because its impossible not to. In my grammar school we got extra credit for extra book reports. It was unavoidable. I loved dressing up and going out. The one I wrote myself was called House of Leather. Fabulous. Like everyone else, I never imagined Donald Trump would get this far. Lebowitz: Tareyton, because thats what my mother smoked. Hes not going to be president. She was part Carib Indian, and they used to call her the Red Woman. Ill take you to 21 if you type for me. Ive typed some of my columns. I suppose that my work is always mourning something, the loss of a paradisenot the thing that comes after you die, but the thing that you had before. I get tired, but fear keeps me awake. Or I would call people on the telephone and have their responses broadcast. I have a double policy, which would also solve immigration: I would stand at the border of New York City and I would say, You can come here to live, but you cant come here to visit. If youre coming here, you better be immigrating. He was the only one of us to break out into the big time, because he got a job on the first gay cruise ship. I dont know howbecause when I was young, boys didnt type. The last one took me 11 hours to type. Another time I saw a real pretty girl standing in front of the mirror with a little tiny cigarette butt hanging out of her mouth, teasing her hair. "It's a thousand billion," she continues, audibly indignant. I like lots of writers, but now I cant think of them. Fran Lebowitz : I cover the waterfront | Semantic Scholar Corpus ID: 228333786 Fran Lebowitz : I cover the waterfront Sandra J. Brant, Ingrid Sischy Published 2004 Art No Paper Link Available Save to Library Create Alert Cite Related Papers Sorry, we did not find any related papers. CLEMENTE: And when you wrote these columns, how did you go about that? Lebowitz: I have to say I have only written back to important people, people in the publishing business. In person and on the page, Kincaids is a literary voice. Just one day the headmaster woke up and thought. High Times: Were you a behavior problem in school? The title song was sung by a truck. Their antidote to this was giving me about 22 Thorazines. I believe Im a great friend. They like machines because it makes them seem more masculine. I was at that time living on the floor of a friends room at Boston University, and I knew that if I didnt smoke that ounce of marijuana, someone else would. Lebowitz: Ive had a number of interesting, colorful jobs. I guess it didnt go. I played cello in the school orchestra, but I was so horrible that I soon got over the notion of being a cellist. In fact, most of the offending language appears in the trailer alone. The study where she writes is a sunroom surrounded on three sides by windows. CLEMENTE: You failed to describe your qualifications to be mayor of the city. ever react to your devotion to their product? And in order to do that, you have to change it so they like it. So just think, if there were, say, only 10 percent of the hotels that exist now, there would be all these apartments for people who live in New York, as opposed to people visiting New York. And at the end of the book report you were supposed to tell people where they could get the book, and I would always say. She rented a theater and sat on stage and called people up and didnt tell them. It is boring and it is arithmetic. SHOP NOW. I styled myself to look like no one else. There was a sink in the bathroom. A brief follow-up conversation took place over the phone to Lebowitz, who had decamped to Princeton, New Jersey, where she was renting the house of a noted architect and sometime furniture designer. But why do these things have to be either/or? The way the admissions director of Harvard decides who goes to Harvard, Id like to decide who comes here. Everybody else was. Not only dont they not understand people different from them, they hardly understand themselves. People say, Well, what would you do with Times Square? And I always think, Gee, I dont know. The idea wasnt that I would establish myself and then have the rest of my family join me. Copyright 2023 Interview Magazine. 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